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Laughs I have to say that generally I don't write stuff that I don't enjoy. If there are some characters that I'm not interested in writing I'll just move them out of the way.
I don't know if that's fair and unfair, but I'd rather have fun than not. Another character you appear to be having a lot of fun with is former New Mutant Sunspot.
He's really come into his own as the leader of and the guy who launched this third faction of the Avengers. What do you enjoy most about the arc that you've given Sunspot? I have a fondness for all of the New Mutants characters.
Those guys were supposed to be the next generation and never got to be it. It's one of the real drags of eternal continuity and the soap opera nature of what we're doing; nothing ever really changes. There are just illusions of change. I think those characters are super interesting and I'll concede, I think it's pretty obvious, that I do like writing buddy stories; from Thor and Hyperion to Bobby and Sam and stuff like that. It's just fun banging those characters off of each other.
Earlier you mentioned the villainous Cabal, a faction featuring former Illuminati member Namor and characters like Thanos, who deal with the Incursions in their own ruthless way by wiping out other dimensions. In the Cabal's most recent appearance they made the acquaintance of the Ultimate Universe's Reed Richards, a character who figured prominently in your 'Ultimates' run. What was it like returning to that Reed? When you left 'Ultimates' did you know you were going to return to this character further down the road?
Contrary to what some people believe, the destruction of the Ultimate Universe and all of that kind of stuff was never baked into the cake from the get go. Obviously I'm telling a story where everything gets blown up. Laughs But the point of it was never, 'Hey, let's kill the Ultimate line!' Let's start to wrap up by chatting about 'Secret Wars.
It really feels like from all the titles that have been announced that you and your collaborators designed the 'Secret Wars' event as a way to allow the creators of the other 'Secret Wars' book to go crazy and do what ever they want. Was that your intention? There was never any guarantee that Marvel was going to completely buy into this. Nobody pitches a story that ends with, 'And then at the end, three years from now, everybody is going to be writing some version of my book.' Laughs That's silly. Because it's so much stuff, I don't think we've done a good job of explaining how this all works on a book-by-book basis. People see there's a book and they're like, 'They're just going to do 'Civil War' again?'
Or when they saw, 'Oh they're doing another 'Siege' book?' The point of it is though to take all of those big concepts and spin them out in a really new way just like how we're doing with 'Secret Wars.' It's a crazy investment from Marvel. It's a crazy investment from the creative teams and I'm sure retailers are pulling their hair out right now trying to figure out how they're going to invest in it, but it's good fun! It's the kind of fun comics that we should be doing!
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Not these depressing end of the world comics that some assholes do! I don't want them to know anything. If I had my druthers we would have never even announced this stuff. The books would just show up the next month and would have replaced all the normal books. You've got to concede that would have been the coolest thing ever. It would have been confusing and it would have been total chaos, but we would've had fun. We can't do it that way of course though.
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So I'll say this for what people can expect: Issue #1 is basically a cold open on the end of the world, and issue #2 is what really kicks off everything. We've done a really smart thing where issue #1 ships one week and issue #2 ships the week after. So there's no delay, no waiting around, or anything like that. Then I think when people see what Esad has done in issues #1 and #2, they will figure out really quickly just how big and exciting this is and how cool the story we're going to tell is.